Excellent Paul! The most troubling thing about relaying this common scenario to guys is that they just don't get it until it's happened to them. Men don't believe it will happen to them anymore than they expect to be struck by falling space debris.
I rarely get triggered but I was reading a post by Stella O'Malley (psychotherapist, Genspect founder) a couple of days ago and at one point I felt like someone had trodden on my brain.
Quote: "Women’s sexuality is seldom a danger to others and so we can be pretty easy-going about their choice of attire. Male sexual expression, however, can be very dangerous and so we need to be a good deal more wary in this context."
I would have left a lengthy comment but only paying subscribers are allowed to comment. I used to find Stella interesting enough to listen to whenever she was interviewed by Benjamin Boyce, but I started to notice these gynocentric biases creep in and eventually found the conversations frustrating to listen to as a result. (Boyce is also a hopelessly chivalrous - although he seems quite honest about it, so it's not so annoying).
For a whole afternoon I was trying to formulate what I would have written if the comments had been switched on. It is a difficult topic to pin down into a concise argument. The threat men's sexuality (or just men's physicality) poses to women is so obvious it hardly needs pointing out. But the threat women's sexuality poses to men is more like a 'snakes and ladders' board. It encompasses not only the threat posed by women but also the threat posed by other men who are taken in by a woman's facade of innocence, vulnerability and any affectations of victimhood.
Your story (above) illustrates this perfectly.
It is precisely because a neotenous, sexually vulnerable woman in attractive clothing appears to pose no threat to men that men are so at risk. I was staggered that Stella would not (choose to?) understand this concept given that she is perfectly capable of picking apart dogma when she wants to.
This breakup story illustrates how women's sexuality can destroy a man at any moment, whenever she is done with the relationship and especially if she also decides to destroy his life by making HIM out to be the bad one.
A man's sexuality poses a threat in the moment, on a date, in a dark street, in an unlicensed cab...... but a woman's sexuality can only ever be said to be harmless once a man has reached the end of his life unharmed! Until then all bets are off.
I think that's the difference I could not pin down, this story helped me clarify it.
At the risk of veering off topic.... what makes Stella's goof even more frustrating is that in her work with ROGD kids she is well aware that a huge motivation for a trans identity among teenage girls is the feeling that being a woman is all about being the passive, victimised, powerless object and that only men have power, potency and agency. So many de-transitioners have expressed how they wanted to feel that power and agency which only belongs to men, rather than be cursed with being a helpless, objectified woman.
Stella's nonsense about women having no sexual power and posing no threat to men is precisely the kind of feminist crap that makes young women feel inferior to men, and envious of men's dominance. If we could once again acknowledge the immense power of women's sexuality - and the very real threat it poses to men (and to women themselves) - then maybe those girls would not have felt the need to wreck their bodies with testosterone (feminism hurts women too).
Proverbs 6:23 28 WEB CAPTURED! Oh boy LOL that's going to upset a LOT of trad con fake 'Christian' wo-MEN when I post it./ Another brilliant article Paul. Juxtaposing & cross referencing the past with the present, neoteny with dopamine, gyno-centrism with testosterone, the wisdom of Solomon, the idiocy Adam, BRAVO! I feel there's a poetic aesthetic to your speaking points as well as a rhythm to your excellent delivery. You have that beatnik appeal. I wish I could play bongo drums for you while you recite your speaking points!
Very interesting, parental brain stimulation explains a lot, but do women really change after marriage or do we blind ourselves and only see what we want to see?
Excellent Paul! The most troubling thing about relaying this common scenario to guys is that they just don't get it until it's happened to them. Men don't believe it will happen to them anymore than they expect to be struck by falling space debris.
I rarely get triggered but I was reading a post by Stella O'Malley (psychotherapist, Genspect founder) a couple of days ago and at one point I felt like someone had trodden on my brain.
Quote: "Women’s sexuality is seldom a danger to others and so we can be pretty easy-going about their choice of attire. Male sexual expression, however, can be very dangerous and so we need to be a good deal more wary in this context."
Here's the full post for context:
https://stellaomalley.substack.com/p/the-intricacies-of-sex-and-clothing
I would have left a lengthy comment but only paying subscribers are allowed to comment. I used to find Stella interesting enough to listen to whenever she was interviewed by Benjamin Boyce, but I started to notice these gynocentric biases creep in and eventually found the conversations frustrating to listen to as a result. (Boyce is also a hopelessly chivalrous - although he seems quite honest about it, so it's not so annoying).
For a whole afternoon I was trying to formulate what I would have written if the comments had been switched on. It is a difficult topic to pin down into a concise argument. The threat men's sexuality (or just men's physicality) poses to women is so obvious it hardly needs pointing out. But the threat women's sexuality poses to men is more like a 'snakes and ladders' board. It encompasses not only the threat posed by women but also the threat posed by other men who are taken in by a woman's facade of innocence, vulnerability and any affectations of victimhood.
Your story (above) illustrates this perfectly.
It is precisely because a neotenous, sexually vulnerable woman in attractive clothing appears to pose no threat to men that men are so at risk. I was staggered that Stella would not (choose to?) understand this concept given that she is perfectly capable of picking apart dogma when she wants to.
This breakup story illustrates how women's sexuality can destroy a man at any moment, whenever she is done with the relationship and especially if she also decides to destroy his life by making HIM out to be the bad one.
A man's sexuality poses a threat in the moment, on a date, in a dark street, in an unlicensed cab...... but a woman's sexuality can only ever be said to be harmless once a man has reached the end of his life unharmed! Until then all bets are off.
I think that's the difference I could not pin down, this story helped me clarify it.
At the risk of veering off topic.... what makes Stella's goof even more frustrating is that in her work with ROGD kids she is well aware that a huge motivation for a trans identity among teenage girls is the feeling that being a woman is all about being the passive, victimised, powerless object and that only men have power, potency and agency. So many de-transitioners have expressed how they wanted to feel that power and agency which only belongs to men, rather than be cursed with being a helpless, objectified woman.
Stella's nonsense about women having no sexual power and posing no threat to men is precisely the kind of feminist crap that makes young women feel inferior to men, and envious of men's dominance. If we could once again acknowledge the immense power of women's sexuality - and the very real threat it poses to men (and to women themselves) - then maybe those girls would not have felt the need to wreck their bodies with testosterone (feminism hurts women too).
Proverbs 6:23 28 WEB CAPTURED! Oh boy LOL that's going to upset a LOT of trad con fake 'Christian' wo-MEN when I post it./ Another brilliant article Paul. Juxtaposing & cross referencing the past with the present, neoteny with dopamine, gyno-centrism with testosterone, the wisdom of Solomon, the idiocy Adam, BRAVO! I feel there's a poetic aesthetic to your speaking points as well as a rhythm to your excellent delivery. You have that beatnik appeal. I wish I could play bongo drums for you while you recite your speaking points!
Very interesting, parental brain stimulation explains a lot, but do women really change after marriage or do we blind ourselves and only see what we want to see?